Best Way to Sandbox Test Jenkins & Jenkins Plugin Updates?

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Best Way to Sandbox Test Jenkins & Jenkins Plugin Updates?

jambihosting
Bit of a broad question here... But i run 3 separate Jenkins environments across diff regions on AWS, because I prefer segregation. As my Jenkins servers are tightly locked down, I generally dont need to update continuously but like to do so every 1-2 months at least.

When it comes to Jenkins updates & Jenkins plugin updates, and making sure masters don't break, I have only relied on snapshots. Taking a snap before updating the OS Jenkins version and all plugins.... If anything breaks, I rollback.

In 2+ years I have not had to rollback until recently. My staging and production Jenkins environments worked fine with the latest updates, but QA failed. This environment has recently added a lot more features & complexity, with additional plugins/services for automated testing and I guess one or more must have broken with the updates.

Oddly, I would normally assume Jenkins itself wouldn't cause things to break, it'd more likely to be plugins which warn of non backwards-compatible changes and the like. However, in this situation, the java ssh process from the master to the slave ceased to work after the updates. I had to specify the actual os ssh process, but then builds had all kinds of errors.

....But I digress, after many attempts at downgrading plugins and changing the config, I eventually had to revert to the saved server state for my Jenkins QA master. It would seem the method I've been using to test updates, whilst it does cover screwups and allows me to rollback, is now insufficient for testing for problems beforehand caused by any updates. Obviously having jobs fail to deploy costs valuable time and money, so I need to improve

I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a workflow for testing Jenkins plugin updates for master servers??

I have the slightly annoying issue that I'm using a plugin "SCM Sync Configuration Plugin", to version config changes to github. Any snapshots I take to spinup a new server for testing, immediately cause problems with this for instance -- minor nuisance but this is my point, trying to get a nice automated workflow for testing if any updates are going to break things.

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Re: Best Way to Sandbox Test Jenkins & Jenkins Plugin Updates?

Qiang Ma
We create a docker image with master and latest versions of plugins for each upgrade. If the upgrade ends up broken (master itself or pipeline jobs), we roll back to the previous image.  Then we can spend time to figure out what's wrong (e.g downgrade the bad plugin version), then create a new docker image.
With jenkins docker image, we can also easily provision a staging environment (even port the production jobs over) to test the upgrade before touching the production. 

Hope that helps :)

On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 4:49:28 AM UTC-5, [hidden email] wrote:
Bit of a broad question here... But i run 3 separate Jenkins environments across diff regions on AWS, because I prefer segregation. As my Jenkins servers are tightly locked down, I generally dont need to update continuously but like to do so every 1-2 months at least.

When it comes to Jenkins updates & Jenkins plugin updates, and making sure masters don't break, I have only relied on snapshots. Taking a snap before updating the OS Jenkins version and all plugins.... If anything breaks, I rollback.

In 2+ years I have not had to rollback until recently. My staging and production Jenkins environments worked fine with the latest updates, but QA failed. This environment has recently added a lot more features & complexity, with additional plugins/services for automated testing and I guess one or more must have broken with the updates.

Oddly, I would normally assume Jenkins itself wouldn't cause things to break, it'd more likely to be plugins which warn of non backwards-compatible changes and the like. However, in this situation, the java ssh process from the master to the slave ceased to work after the updates. I had to specify the actual os ssh process, but then builds had all kinds of errors.

....But I digress, after many attempts at downgrading plugins and changing the config, I eventually had to revert to the saved server state for my Jenkins QA master. It would seem the method I've been using to test updates, whilst it does cover screwups and allows me to rollback, is now insufficient for testing for problems beforehand caused by any updates. Obviously having jobs fail to deploy costs valuable time and money, so I need to improve

I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a workflow for testing Jenkins plugin updates for master servers??

I have the slightly annoying issue that I'm using a plugin "SCM Sync Configuration Plugin", to version config changes to github. Any snapshots I take to spinup a new server for testing, immediately cause problems with this for instance -- minor nuisance but this is my point, trying to get a nice automated workflow for testing if any updates are going to break things.

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Re: Best Way to Sandbox Test Jenkins & Jenkins Plugin Updates?

Jan Monterrubio
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We use the Jenkins docker image to try out our upgrades (our actual running Jenkins is not a containerized version). We have some health jobs that try out various things on the system (mvn ruby gradle node) by running a job of each type. 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 04:49 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Bit of a broad question here... But i run 3 separate Jenkins environments across diff regions on AWS, because I prefer segregation. As my Jenkins servers are tightly locked down, I generally dont need to update continuously but like to do so every 1-2 months at least.

When it comes to Jenkins updates & Jenkins plugin updates, and making sure masters don't break, I have only relied on snapshots. Taking a snap before updating the OS Jenkins version and all plugins.... If anything breaks, I rollback.

In 2+ years I have not had to rollback until recently. My staging and production Jenkins environments worked fine with the latest updates, but QA failed. This environment has recently added a lot more features & complexity, with additional plugins/services for automated testing and I guess one or more must have broken with the updates.

Oddly, I would normally assume Jenkins itself wouldn't cause things to break, it'd more likely to be plugins which warn of non backwards-compatible changes and the like. However, in this situation, the java ssh process from the master to the slave ceased to work after the updates. I had to specify the actual os ssh process, but then builds had all kinds of errors.

....But I digress, after many attempts at downgrading plugins and changing the config, I eventually had to revert to the saved server state for my Jenkins QA master. It would seem the method I've been using to test updates, whilst it does cover screwups and allows me to rollback, is now insufficient for testing for problems beforehand caused by any updates. Obviously having jobs fail to deploy costs valuable time and money, so I need to improve

I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a workflow for testing Jenkins plugin updates for master servers??

I have the slightly annoying issue that I'm using a plugin "SCM Sync Configuration Plugin", to version config changes to github. Any snapshots I take to spinup a new server for testing, immediately cause problems with this for instance -- minor nuisance but this is my point, trying to get a nice automated workflow for testing if any updates are going to break things.

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