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Sverre Moe-2
Here follows some observations from running Jenkins in Blue Ocean:

I know BluOcean is not yet finished:
https://jenkins.io/projects/blueocean/roadmap/
A small list. I had expected more, but perhaps it near finish.

Hope that some of my observation might lead to improvements on BlueOcean because I like it a lot. It is a huge step up in user interface design.
What I like most from BlueOcean is that I can see the build log output from each build node alone, while in classic view it was all mixed together.

1) Slow initial loading:
Clicking on a Pipeline: activities takes several seconds to finish loading.
Clicking on Branches, takes several seconds to finish loading.

2) After initial loading on Multibranch Pipeline in BlueOcean it loads faster the second time, but still a little lag.
"Show more" takes a few seconds to load.
Loading back to Pipelines takes a few seconds before it is finished loading.

3) Is it not possible to select view to show in BlueOcean?
We have a lot of projects, and it would be helpful to limit which views project is listed.
Some projects are also Coverity, maintenance and tools Pipelines and are not important for the main user to see.

4) Warnings in the log output.
Lots of the following WARNING
Specially when I click on Show more

Oct 18, 2017 4:20:16 PM hudson.XmlFile replaceIfNotAtTopLevel
WARNING: JENKINS-45892: reference to pipe1 #319 being saved from unexpected /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/pipe1/builds/319/workflow/6-parallel-synthetic.xml
java.lang.IllegalStateException
        at hudson.XmlFile.replaceIfNotAtTopLevel(XmlFile.java:210)
        at hudson.model.Run.writeReplace(Run.java:1929)
        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor173.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.SerializationMethodInvoker.callWriteReplace(SerializationMethodInvoker.java:89)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:141)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshallField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:265)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.writeField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:252)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.visit(RobustReflectionConverter.java:224)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.PureJavaReflectionProvider.visitSerializableFields(PureJavaReflectionProvider.java:138)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.doMarshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:209)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:150)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84

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Re: BlueOcean observations from user

Arnaud bourree
Hi,

I'm agreed with Sverre, Blue Ocean is a huge step up in user interface design.
Also agreed that views are missing.

Additional wish is to view pipeline graph (of last build) on top of build list, and when a build is running, show where it is.
Many times, I wait for a job completion, and I just want to see in which stage it is, I don't need log.
In legacy view, I take a look to stage table. Without history of past build, I'd like to see running build progression on pipeline graph on build list page.

Arnaud.


2017-10-23 8:59 GMT+02:00 Sverre Moe <[hidden email]>:
Here follows some observations from running Jenkins in Blue Ocean:

I know BluOcean is not yet finished:
A small list. I had expected more, but perhaps it near finish.

Hope that some of my observation might lead to improvements on BlueOcean because I like it a lot. It is a huge step up in user interface design.
What I like most from BlueOcean is that I can see the build log output from each build node alone, while in classic view it was all mixed together.

1) Slow initial loading:
Clicking on a Pipeline: activities takes several seconds to finish loading.
Clicking on Branches, takes several seconds to finish loading.

2) After initial loading on Multibranch Pipeline in BlueOcean it loads faster the second time, but still a little lag.
"Show more" takes a few seconds to load.
Loading back to Pipelines takes a few seconds before it is finished loading.

3) Is it not possible to select view to show in BlueOcean?
We have a lot of projects, and it would be helpful to limit which views project is listed.
Some projects are also Coverity, maintenance and tools Pipelines and are not important for the main user to see.

4) Warnings in the log output.
Lots of the following WARNING
Specially when I click on Show more

Oct 18, 2017 4:20:16 PM hudson.XmlFile replaceIfNotAtTopLevel
WARNING: JENKINS-45892: reference to pipe1 #319 being saved from unexpected /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/pipe1/builds/319/workflow/6-parallel-synthetic.xml
java.lang.IllegalStateException
        at hudson.XmlFile.replaceIfNotAtTopLevel(XmlFile.java:210)
        at hudson.model.Run.writeReplace(Run.java:1929)
        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor173.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.SerializationMethodInvoker.callWriteReplace(SerializationMethodInvoker.java:89)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:141)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshallField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:265)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.writeField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:252)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.visit(RobustReflectionConverter.java:224)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.PureJavaReflectionProvider.visitSerializableFields(PureJavaReflectionProvider.java:138)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.doMarshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:209)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:150)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84

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Re: BlueOcean observations from user

Sverre Moe-2
I just updated my Jenkins because it had Blue Ocean performance improvements mentioned in the Changelog.
I cannot see these improvements. It still takes forever to load, specially Activities under each Pipeline project.

There should be possible to select a view to list projects. The projects that are listed on top are all unimportant projects none uses.
The only way to find the project I need is to search, and continuous scroll and click Show more, but I am drowned in hundreds of projects.

Also sort projects listed based on recent builds.

fredag 27. oktober 2017 09.40.28 UTC+2 skrev Arnaud følgende:
Hi,

I'm agreed with Sverre, Blue Ocean is a huge step up in user interface design.
Also agreed that views are missing.

Additional wish is to view pipeline graph (of last build) on top of build list, and when a build is running, show where it is.
Many times, I wait for a job completion, and I just want to see in which stage it is, I don't need log.
In legacy view, I take a look to stage table. Without history of past build, I'd like to see running build progression on pipeline graph on build list page.

Arnaud.


2017-10-23 8:59 GMT+02:00 Sverre Moe <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="1ie6kn-9AQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">sverr...@...>:
Here follows some observations from running Jenkins in Blue Ocean:

I know BluOcean is not yet finished:
<a href="https://jenkins.io/projects/blueocean/roadmap/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fjenkins.io%2Fprojects%2Fblueocean%2Froadmap%2F\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG6wPLGO2lPObTZNXqRu18Zm6Kvig&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fjenkins.io%2Fprojects%2Fblueocean%2Froadmap%2F\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG6wPLGO2lPObTZNXqRu18Zm6Kvig&#39;;return true;">https://jenkins.io/projects/blueocean/roadmap/
A small list. I had expected more, but perhaps it near finish.

Hope that some of my observation might lead to improvements on BlueOcean because I like it a lot. It is a huge step up in user interface design.
What I like most from BlueOcean is that I can see the build log output from each build node alone, while in classic view it was all mixed together.

1) Slow initial loading:
Clicking on a Pipeline: activities takes several seconds to finish loading.
Clicking on Branches, takes several seconds to finish loading.

2) After initial loading on Multibranch Pipeline in BlueOcean it loads faster the second time, but still a little lag.
"Show more" takes a few seconds to load.
Loading back to Pipelines takes a few seconds before it is finished loading.

3) Is it not possible to select view to show in BlueOcean?
We have a lot of projects, and it would be helpful to limit which views project is listed.
Some projects are also Coverity, maintenance and tools Pipelines and are not important for the main user to see.

4) Warnings in the log output.
Lots of the following WARNING
Specially when I click on Show more

Oct 18, 2017 4:20:16 PM hudson.XmlFile replaceIfNotAtTopLevel
WARNING: JENKINS-45892: reference to pipe1 #319 being saved from unexpected /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/pipe1/builds/319/workflow/6-parallel-synthetic.xml
java.lang.IllegalStateException
        at hudson.XmlFile.replaceIfNotAtTopLevel(XmlFile.java:210)
        at hudson.model.Run.writeReplace(Run.java:1929)
        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor173.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.SerializationMethodInvoker.callWriteReplace(SerializationMethodInvoker.java:89)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:141)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshallField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:265)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.writeField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:252)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.visit(RobustReflectionConverter.java:224)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.PureJavaReflectionProvider.visitSerializableFields(PureJavaReflectionProvider.java:138)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.doMarshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:209)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:150)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84

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Re: BlueOcean observations from user

Cliff Meyers
Hello,

Does the favorites / personalization feature help you at all, or would the list of favorite'd projects still be unmanageable for you?

-Cliff


On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Sverre Moe <[hidden email]> wrote:
I just updated my Jenkins because it had Blue Ocean performance improvements mentioned in the Changelog.
I cannot see these improvements. It still takes forever to load, specially Activities under each Pipeline project.

There should be possible to select a view to list projects. The projects that are listed on top are all unimportant projects none uses.
The only way to find the project I need is to search, and continuous scroll and click Show more, but I am drowned in hundreds of projects.

Also sort projects listed based on recent builds.

fredag 27. oktober 2017 09.40.28 UTC+2 skrev Arnaud følgende:
Hi,

I'm agreed with Sverre, Blue Ocean is a huge step up in user interface design.
Also agreed that views are missing.

Additional wish is to view pipeline graph (of last build) on top of build list, and when a build is running, show where it is.
Many times, I wait for a job completion, and I just want to see in which stage it is, I don't need log.
In legacy view, I take a look to stage table. Without history of past build, I'd like to see running build progression on pipeline graph on build list page.

Arnaud.


2017-10-23 8:59 GMT+02:00 Sverre Moe <[hidden email]>:
Here follows some observations from running Jenkins in Blue Ocean:

I know BluOcean is not yet finished:
A small list. I had expected more, but perhaps it near finish.

Hope that some of my observation might lead to improvements on BlueOcean because I like it a lot. It is a huge step up in user interface design.
What I like most from BlueOcean is that I can see the build log output from each build node alone, while in classic view it was all mixed together.

1) Slow initial loading:
Clicking on a Pipeline: activities takes several seconds to finish loading.
Clicking on Branches, takes several seconds to finish loading.

2) After initial loading on Multibranch Pipeline in BlueOcean it loads faster the second time, but still a little lag.
"Show more" takes a few seconds to load.
Loading back to Pipelines takes a few seconds before it is finished loading.

3) Is it not possible to select view to show in BlueOcean?
We have a lot of projects, and it would be helpful to limit which views project is listed.
Some projects are also Coverity, maintenance and tools Pipelines and are not important for the main user to see.

4) Warnings in the log output.
Lots of the following WARNING
Specially when I click on Show more

Oct 18, 2017 4:20:16 PM hudson.XmlFile replaceIfNotAtTopLevel
WARNING: JENKINS-45892: reference to pipe1 #319 being saved from unexpected /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/pipe1/builds/319/workflow/6-parallel-synthetic.xml
java.lang.IllegalStateException
        at hudson.XmlFile.replaceIfNotAtTopLevel(XmlFile.java:210)
        at hudson.model.Run.writeReplace(Run.java:1929)
        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor173.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.SerializationMethodInvoker.callWriteReplace(SerializationMethodInvoker.java:89)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:141)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshallField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:265)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.writeField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:252)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.visit(RobustReflectionConverter.java:224)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.PureJavaReflectionProvider.visitSerializableFields(PureJavaReflectionProvider.java:138)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.doMarshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:209)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:150)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84

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Re: BlueOcean observations from user

Sverre Moe-2
Favorites helps a little, but it may be beome equally unmanageable.
Lets say I have only 4 projects that I am interested in, but those have 4 release branches, and two of my work branches. The favorite list will become unmanageable.

onsdag 8. november 2017 20.26.31 UTC+1 skrev Cliff Meyers følgende:
Hello,

Does the favorites / personalization feature help you at all, or would the list of favorite'd projects still be unmanageable for you?

-Cliff


On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Sverre Moe <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="p4WvXre0AQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">sverr...@...> wrote:
I just updated my Jenkins because it had Blue Ocean performance improvements mentioned in the Changelog.
I cannot see these improvements. It still takes forever to load, specially Activities under each Pipeline project.

There should be possible to select a view to list projects. The projects that are listed on top are all unimportant projects none uses.
The only way to find the project I need is to search, and continuous scroll and click Show more, but I am drowned in hundreds of projects.

Also sort projects listed based on recent builds.

fredag 27. oktober 2017 09.40.28 UTC+2 skrev Arnaud følgende:
Hi,

I'm agreed with Sverre, Blue Ocean is a huge step up in user interface design.
Also agreed that views are missing.

Additional wish is to view pipeline graph (of last build) on top of build list, and when a build is running, show where it is.
Many times, I wait for a job completion, and I just want to see in which stage it is, I don't need log.
In legacy view, I take a look to stage table. Without history of past build, I'd like to see running build progression on pipeline graph on build list page.

Arnaud.


2017-10-23 8:59 GMT+02:00 Sverre Moe <[hidden email]>:
Here follows some observations from running Jenkins in Blue Ocean:

I know BluOcean is not yet finished:
<a href="https://jenkins.io/projects/blueocean/roadmap/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fjenkins.io%2Fprojects%2Fblueocean%2Froadmap%2F\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG6wPLGO2lPObTZNXqRu18Zm6Kvig&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fjenkins.io%2Fprojects%2Fblueocean%2Froadmap%2F\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG6wPLGO2lPObTZNXqRu18Zm6Kvig&#39;;return true;">https://jenkins.io/projects/blueocean/roadmap/
A small list. I had expected more, but perhaps it near finish.

Hope that some of my observation might lead to improvements on BlueOcean because I like it a lot. It is a huge step up in user interface design.
What I like most from BlueOcean is that I can see the build log output from each build node alone, while in classic view it was all mixed together.

1) Slow initial loading:
Clicking on a Pipeline: activities takes several seconds to finish loading.
Clicking on Branches, takes several seconds to finish loading.

2) After initial loading on Multibranch Pipeline in BlueOcean it loads faster the second time, but still a little lag.
"Show more" takes a few seconds to load.
Loading back to Pipelines takes a few seconds before it is finished loading.

3) Is it not possible to select view to show in BlueOcean?
We have a lot of projects, and it would be helpful to limit which views project is listed.
Some projects are also Coverity, maintenance and tools Pipelines and are not important for the main user to see.

4) Warnings in the log output.
Lots of the following WARNING
Specially when I click on Show more

Oct 18, 2017 4:20:16 PM hudson.XmlFile replaceIfNotAtTopLevel
WARNING: JENKINS-45892: reference to pipe1 #319 being saved from unexpected /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/pipe1/builds/319/workflow/6-parallel-synthetic.xml
java.lang.IllegalStateException
        at hudson.XmlFile.replaceIfNotAtTopLevel(XmlFile.java:210)
        at hudson.model.Run.writeReplace(Run.java:1929)
        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor173.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.SerializationMethodInvoker.callWriteReplace(SerializationMethodInvoker.java:89)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:141)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshallField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:265)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.writeField(RobustReflectionConverter.java:252)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter$2.visit(RobustReflectionConverter.java:224)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.converters.reflection.PureJavaReflectionProvider.visitSerializableFields(PureJavaReflectionProvider.java:138)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.doMarshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:209)
        at hudson.util.RobustReflectionConverter.marshal(RobustReflectionConverter.java:150)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller.convert(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:69)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.TreeMarshaller.convertAnother(TreeMarshaller.java:58)
        at com.thoughtworks.xstream.core.AbstractReferenceMarshaller$1.convertAnother(AbstractReferenceMarshaller.java:84

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