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Green gone, and status column in user builds page

Kayser, William H

In the last couple builds (103 and before) the green light seems to be gone. 

 

I think this used to show for ‘stable’ builds.  Must have been removed for a specific reason, like maybe it wasn’t distinguishable from red…?  (I didn’t see anything on the list archives or bug db) 

 

Too bad.  I miss my green lights!

 

Also… I discovered the “builds” link on the user page.  This is a great view.  I love the console link and especially the status column!  It would be great if the status column could appear in the dashboards.  There is definitely room.

 

Here’s what mine shows.  I like how it distinguishes ongoing test failures from new ones (‘still failing’).

 


183 tests are still failing

stable

stable

1 less test are failing (125 total)

stable

stable

stable

3 test failures

1 test failure

1 less test are failing (1 total)

99 more tests are failing (116 total)

1 test are still failing

3 tests are still failing

stable

stable

broken since this build

1 test are still failing

1 test are still failing


 

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Re: Green gone, and status column in user builds page

Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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Kayser, Bill wrote:
> In the last couple builds (103 and before) the green light seems to be
> gone.  

Err, I'm not aware of any such UI change in recent builds. Do you have
any screen shots?

It's been a long time since we switched from green theme to the tango
blue theme (and there was a dark purple theme in between.) That's more
than a year at least.

> Also... I discovered the "builds" link on the user page.  This is a
> great view.  I love the console link and especially the status column!
> It would be great if the status column could appear in the dashboards.
> There is definitely room.

Yes. Maybe I should cut the last duration column and use that one line
summary instead. Or maybe it's OK to make each row bit thicker.

I think what Hudson is showing at the top page needs re-evaluation. The
same goes for project top page. The only thing I'd like to be really
careful is not to put too much information in one page.

If anyone wants to do some screen shot mock up, you are welcome :-)


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Kayser, William H
>
> Err, I'm not aware of any such UI change in recent builds. Do you have
> any screen shots?

Surely you are looking at the same thing I am.  Maybe I'm dreaming?
Look at the legend page.  There are 8 lights, none of them green.  I
could swear that in early March when I first tried Hudson my builds that
were successful and had no test failures (stable) there was a green
light, not a blue one.

> > Also... I discovered the "builds" link on the user page.  This is a
> > great view.  I love the console link and especially the status
column!
> > It would be great if the status column could appear in the
dashboards.
> > There is definitely room.
>
> Yes. Maybe I should cut the last duration column and use that one line
> summary instead. Or maybe it's OK to make each row bit thicker.

Tough call.  I like seeing the duration, but if I had to choose I'd take
the status text.  On my screen I could definitely fit both (1280x1024)
so that would be my preference.  You could also experiment with wrapping
the 'Last' column headers and maybe abbreviating minutes=min and
seconds=sec.

If you had the status text, I would be less interested in separate
columns for last success and last failure.  The status text kind of
captures that info.  Instead a single link to the last build--successful
or not--would be all I need.  If the last build was successful, then I
don't really care about the last failure.  If the last build was a
failure then I'll drill down into that first before going to the last
successful build.  


> I think what Hudson is showing at the top page needs re-evaluation.
The
> same goes for project top page. The only thing I'd like to be really
> careful is not to put too much information in one page.
>
> If anyone wants to do some screen shot mock up, you are welcome :-)

Agreed.  I think it's a key page and it could be enhanced.  I'll see if
I can come up with some mockups with different ideas.  It would be a
couple of days before I'd come up with anything.

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Re: Green gone, and status column in user builds page

Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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Kayser, Bill wrote:
>>
>> Err, I'm not aware of any such UI change in recent builds. Do you have
>> any screen shots?
>
> Surely you are looking at the same thing I am.  Maybe I'm dreaming?
> Look at the legend page.  There are 8 lights, none of them green.  I
> could swear that in early March when I first tried Hudson my builds that
> were successful and had no test failures (stable) there was a green
> light, not a blue one.

The only possibility is that something was in your browser cache.
There's a related bug reported, but still, it's a long time.


>> Yes. Maybe I should cut the last duration column and use that one line
>> summary instead. Or maybe it's OK to make each row bit thicker.
>
> Tough call.  I like seeing the duration, but if I had to choose I'd take
> the status text.  On my screen I could definitely fit both (1280x1024)
> so that would be my preference.  You could also experiment with wrapping
> the 'Last' column headers and maybe abbreviating minutes=min and
> seconds=sec.

That's true.

> If you had the status text, I would be less interested in separate
> columns for last success and last failure.  The status text kind of
> captures that info.  Instead a single link to the last build--successful
> or not--would be all I need.  If the last build was successful, then I
> don't really care about the last failure.  If the last build was a
> failure then I'll drill down into that first before going to the last
> successful build.  

Right. OTOH, on some other jobs, especially the external monitoring
jobs, even if the last one is successful, I'm still interested in the
last failures.

Maybe what that means is that the row could/should be different for each
job type.

>> I think what Hudson is showing at the top page needs re-evaluation.
> The
>> same goes for project top page. The only thing I'd like to be really
>> careful is not to put too much information in one page.
>>
>> If anyone wants to do some screen shot mock up, you are welcome :-)
>
> Agreed.  I think it's a key page and it could be enhanced.  I'll see if
> I can come up with some mockups with different ideas.  It would be a
> couple of days before I'd come up with anything.
Maybe we should also look at how the competitions are doing. Bamboo and
TeamCity in particular must have been designed by some real designer, so
those are worth checking.

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Kayser, William H

> The only possibility is that something was in your browser cache.
> There's a related bug reported, but still, it's a long time.

Okay I've attached the legend page.  Is this correct?  I was expecting a
legend entry for a "successful build, tests passed" == green light.  But
I don't even see this case as distinguished from "successful build, no
unit tests" which was always blue for me.  Did I dream that?

 
> Maybe we should also look at how the competitions are doing. Bamboo
and
> TeamCity in particular must have been designed by some real designer,
so
> those are worth checking.

Yes.  Unfortunately my only experience is with Tinderbox.  I guess
that's why I like Hudson so much.  Still, Tinderbox does have some good
ideas on its dashboard, like swimlanes for the builds, instead of
rows--not necessarily better, but different.

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Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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Kayser, Bill wrote:
>> The only possibility is that something was in your browser cache.
>> There's a related bug reported, but still, it's a long time.
>
> Okay I've attached the legend page.  Is this correct?

Yes

> I was expecting a
> legend entry for a "successful build, tests passed" == green light.  But
> I don't even see this case as distinguished from "successful build, no
> unit tests" which was always blue for me.  Did I dream that?

There's no such distinction between "successful build, tests passed" vs
"successful build but no unit test".

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Re: Green gone, and status column in user builds page

Tomasz Sterna-2
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Dnia 18-04-2007, śro o godzinie 09:39 -0700, Kohsuke Kawaguchi
napisał(a):
> Yes. Maybe I should cut the last duration column and use that one line
> summary instead. Or maybe it's OK to make each row bit thicker.

With L sized icons, there surely is a place for second line of text.


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