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Andrew Bayer
Hey all -

Given that java.net is in the process of migrating to a new backend, it seems like now may be the right time to look into moving the Hudson development infrastructure elsewhere, so that we're not locked into that single, fairly volatile platform. Part of that would be moving the mailing lists elsewhere. It seems like the best option for that would be Google Groups - the downside there would be that we couldn't import the entire history of the existing mailing lists into the new ones, but I feel like that's not a blocker, thanks to Nabble archives, etc. But before we moved forward on this at all, I wanted to run it past you all and see what your thoughts were. Thanks!

A.
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Dean Yu
Re: Mailing list change proposal Why not just use Nabble? Doing web searches always seems to return results from Nabble anyway.

  -- Dean


On 11/17/10 12:18 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <andrew.bayer@...> wrote:

Hey all -

Given that java.net <http://java.net>  is in the process of migrating to a new backend, it seems like now may be the right time to look into moving the Hudson development infrastructure elsewhere, so that we're not locked into that single, fairly volatile platform. Part of that would be moving the mailing lists elsewhere. It seems like the best option for that would be Google Groups - the downside there would be that we couldn't import the entire history of the existing mailing lists into the new ones, but I feel like that's not a blocker, thanks to Nabble archives, etc. But before we moved forward on this at all, I wanted to run it past you all and see what your thoughts were. Thanks!

A.

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R. Tyler Croy

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Dean Yu wrote:

> Why not just use Nabble? Doing web searches always seems to return results from Nabble anyway.

I'm not for or against this proposal, but do you think you could at least give
some reasons why Nabble would be a good place to move the mailing list? Many of
us I'm assuming (myself included) have never set up or worked heavily with
many of Nabble's features

- R. Tyler Croy
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Dean Yu
I'm not a big user of Nabble myself. I do all my communication with the
mailing lists through my mail client. My logic was simply this:

Nabble archives are already among the first 10 links of web search
results[1]. If someone is going to Nabble to view an archived thread, why
not just let them stay there if they want to follow up?

  -- Dean

[1] http://bit.ly/cNUJ3w

On 11/17/10 12:56 PM, "R. Tyler Croy" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Dean Yu wrote:
>
>> Why not just use Nabble? Doing web searches always seems to return results
>> from Nabble anyway.
>
> I'm not for or against this proposal, but do you think you could at least give
> some reasons why Nabble would be a good place to move the mailing list? Many
> of
> us I'm assuming (myself included) have never set up or worked heavily with
> many of Nabble's features
>
> - R. Tyler Croy
> --------------------------------------
>   GitHub: http://github.com/rtyler
>  Twitter: http://twitter.com/agentdero
>


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Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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I think Nabble can continue to function as the archive, while
Google Group to serve as the mailing list.


2010/11/17 Dean Yu <[hidden email]>:

> I'm not a big user of Nabble myself. I do all my communication with the
> mailing lists through my mail client. My logic was simply this:
>
> Nabble archives are already among the first 10 links of web search
> results[1]. If someone is going to Nabble to view an archived thread, why
> not just let them stay there if they want to follow up?
>
>  -- Dean
>
> [1] http://bit.ly/cNUJ3w
>
> On 11/17/10 12:56 PM, "R. Tyler Croy" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Dean Yu wrote:
>>
>>> Why not just use Nabble? Doing web searches always seems to return results
>>> from Nabble anyway.
>>
>> I'm not for or against this proposal, but do you think you could at least give
>> some reasons why Nabble would be a good place to move the mailing list? Many
>> of
>> us I'm assuming (myself included) have never set up or worked heavily with
>> many of Nabble's features
>>
>> - R. Tyler Croy
>> --------------------------------------
>>   GitHub: http://github.com/rtyler
>>  Twitter: http://twitter.com/agentdero
>>
>
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Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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That is, the basic setup is just like today. We have a mailing list,
then we have an archive.

Nabble can handle this very well.

2010/11/17 Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[hidden email]>:

> I think Nabble can continue to function as the archive, while
> Google Group to serve as the mailing list.
>
>
> 2010/11/17 Dean Yu <[hidden email]>:
>> I'm not a big user of Nabble myself. I do all my communication with the
>> mailing lists through my mail client. My logic was simply this:
>>
>> Nabble archives are already among the first 10 links of web search
>> results[1]. If someone is going to Nabble to view an archived thread, why
>> not just let them stay there if they want to follow up?
>>
>>  -- Dean
>>
>> [1] http://bit.ly/cNUJ3w
>>
>> On 11/17/10 12:56 PM, "R. Tyler Croy" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Dean Yu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why not just use Nabble? Doing web searches always seems to return results
>>>> from Nabble anyway.
>>>
>>> I'm not for or against this proposal, but do you think you could at least give
>>> some reasons why Nabble would be a good place to move the mailing list? Many
>>> of
>>> us I'm assuming (myself included) have never set up or worked heavily with
>>> many of Nabble's features
>>>
>>> - R. Tyler Croy
>>> --------------------------------------
>>>   GitHub: http://github.com/rtyler
>>>  Twitter: http://twitter.com/agentdero
>>>
>>
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Andrew Bayer
Yeah, that seems fine to me - I'll email Nabble to make sure they can archive Google Groups, though.

A.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[hidden email]> wrote:
That is, the basic setup is just like today. We have a mailing list,
then we have an archive.

Nabble can handle this very well.

2010/11/17 Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[hidden email]>:
> I think Nabble can continue to function as the archive, while
> Google Group to serve as the mailing list.
>
>
> 2010/11/17 Dean Yu <[hidden email]>:
>> I'm not a big user of Nabble myself. I do all my communication with the
>> mailing lists through my mail client. My logic was simply this:
>>
>> Nabble archives are already among the first 10 links of web search
>> results[1]. If someone is going to Nabble to view an archived thread, why
>> not just let them stay there if they want to follow up?
>>
>>  -- Dean
>>
>> [1] http://bit.ly/cNUJ3w
>>
>> On 11/17/10 12:56 PM, "R. Tyler Croy" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Dean Yu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why not just use Nabble? Doing web searches always seems to return results
>>>> from Nabble anyway.
>>>
>>> I'm not for or against this proposal, but do you think you could at least give
>>> some reasons why Nabble would be a good place to move the mailing list? Many
>>> of
>>> us I'm assuming (myself included) have never set up or worked heavily with
>>> many of Nabble's features
>>>
>>> - R. Tyler Croy
>>> --------------------------------------
>>>   GitHub: http://github.com/rtyler
>>>  Twitter: http://twitter.com/agentdero
>>>
>>
>>
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> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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