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Regarding the recent waves of mailing list spam

R. Tyler Croy

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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Mark Waite-2
How much time do you think would be required per week for an active moderator, assuming we could enlist 5+ active moderators?

I'm interested, so long as active moderation doesn't cost me too much time.

Mark Waite

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:53 AM R. Tyler Croy <[hidden email]> wrote:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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slide
+1 for me as well. I would definitely be willing to help out.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:26 AM Mark Waite <[hidden email]> wrote:
How much time do you think would be required per week for an active moderator, assuming we could enlist 5+ active moderators?

I'm interested, so long as active moderation doesn't cost me too much time.

Mark Waite

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:53 AM R. Tyler Croy <[hidden email]> wrote:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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Re: Regarding the recent waves of mailing list spam

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Me three. It seems like ideally we would have some folks dedicated who are in different time zones, and if we each reviewed the moderation queue at the start of our workday, there would be minimal lag in posting. I'm in PST.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Slide <[hidden email]> wrote:
+1 for me as well. I would definitely be willing to help out.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:26 AM Mark Waite <[hidden email]> wrote:
How much time do you think would be required per week for an active moderator, assuming we could enlist 5+ active moderators?

I'm interested, so long as active moderation doesn't cost me too much time.

Mark Waite

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:53 AM R. Tyler Croy <[hidden email]> wrote:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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I'm more than willing to help out if it helps keep the mailing list free(-er) from annoying spam.  I like Owen's suggestion so to that end I'm NZT (+12/+13)

Richard


On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, 5:37 AM Owen Mehegan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Me three. It seems like ideally we would have some folks dedicated who are in different time zones, and if we each reviewed the moderation queue at the start of our workday, there would be minimal lag in posting. I'm in PST.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Slide <[hidden email]> wrote:
+1 for me as well. I would definitely be willing to help out.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:26 AM Mark Waite <[hidden email]> wrote:
How much time do you think would be required per week for an active moderator, assuming we could enlist 5+ active moderators?

I'm interested, so long as active moderation doesn't cost me too much time.

Mark Waite

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:53 AM R. Tyler Croy <[hidden email]> wrote:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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I'm MST always. I ❤ Arizona.


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 13:29 Richard Bywater <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm more than willing to help out if it helps keep the mailing list free(-er) from annoying spam.  I like Owen's suggestion so to that end I'm NZT (+12/+13)

Richard


On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, 5:37 AM Owen Mehegan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Me three. It seems like ideally we would have some folks dedicated who are in different time zones, and if we each reviewed the moderation queue at the start of our workday, there would be minimal lag in posting. I'm in PST.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Slide <[hidden email]> wrote:
+1 for me as well. I would definitely be willing to help out.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:26 AM Mark Waite <[hidden email]> wrote:
How much time do you think would be required per week for an active moderator, assuming we could enlist 5+ active moderators?

I'm interested, so long as active moderation doesn't cost me too much time.

Mark Waite

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:53 AM R. Tyler Croy <[hidden email]> wrote:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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Mark Waite-2

I'm MST as well,  Colorado


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:03 PM Slide <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm MST always. I ❤ Arizona.


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 13:29 Richard Bywater <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm more than willing to help out if it helps keep the mailing list free(-er) from annoying spam.  I like Owen's suggestion so to that end I'm NZT (+12/+13)

Richard


On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, 5:37 AM Owen Mehegan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Me three. It seems like ideally we would have some folks dedicated who are in different time zones, and if we each reviewed the moderation queue at the start of our workday, there would be minimal lag in posting. I'm in PST.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Slide <[hidden email]> wrote:
+1 for me as well. I would definitely be willing to help out.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:26 AM Mark Waite <[hidden email]> wrote:
How much time do you think would be required per week for an active moderator, assuming we could enlist 5+ active moderators?

I'm interested, so long as active moderation doesn't cost me too much time.

Mark Waite

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:53 AM R. Tyler Croy <[hidden email]> wrote:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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Re: Regarding the recent waves of mailing list spam

Joseph P
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I would also be willing. Timezone CEST/CET :)

Den mandag den 17. april 2017 kl. 17.53.45 UTC+2 skrev R Tyler Croy:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(<a href="http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fmeetings.jenkins-ci.org%2Fjenkins-meeting%2F2017%2Fjenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG3NylL_1R4h9zg1Cq9PykhbWo9oQ&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fmeetings.jenkins-ci.org%2Fjenkins-meeting%2F2017%2Fjenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG3NylL_1R4h9zg1Cq9PykhbWo9oQ&#39;;return true;">http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to <a href="http://groups.io" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fgroups.io\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHVeYB8qE3uOhBINzQLWXu_9AkiXQ&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fgroups.io\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHVeYB8qE3uOhBINzQLWXu_9AkiXQ&#39;;return true;">groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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Re: Regarding the recent waves of mailing list spam

Michael Hunter
I am willing to help as well. Timezone: GMT, BST.

On 19 April 2017 at 21:33, Arnaud Héritier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Let's go
CEST/CET
Do we know how many new subscribers we have per day/week to see how many we should be to moderate new members ?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Joseph P <[hidden email]> wrote:
I would also be willing. Timezone CEST/CET :)


Den mandag den 17. april 2017 kl. 17.53.45 UTC+2 skrev R Tyler Croy:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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Baptiste MATHUS-3
IMO, we should really enable, at least temporarily, first-poster moderation. I don't know what is the average subscription for people here, but I suspect it's ML, hence receiving spams before they possibly get deleted eventually from the GGroup archive. Hence no use. I'm in that case.

Aren't we now enough who answered to this thread or previously to enable this option? I don't expect an email would stay in the queue for more than a few hours with that amount of people? And this seems like a reasonable compromise for stopping spams here?

Thanks

-- Baptiste

2017-04-24 20:13 GMT+02:00 Michael Hunter <[hidden email]>:
I am willing to help as well. Timezone: GMT, BST.

On 19 April 2017 at 21:33, Arnaud Héritier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Let's go
CEST/CET
Do we know how many new subscribers we have per day/week to see how many we should be to moderate new members ?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Joseph P <[hidden email]> wrote:
I would also be willing. Timezone CEST/CET :)


Den mandag den 17. april 2017 kl. 17.53.45 UTC+2 skrev R Tyler Croy:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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Mark Waite-2
I agree with Baptiste.  When I've checked on the moderator queue after a flurry of spam, more often than not I've found that someone else had already handled the messages which google groups had detected as spam.  Enabling first-poster moderation will block the spam which google groups fails to detect as spam.

Mark Waite

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 4:42 AM Baptiste Mathus <[hidden email]> wrote:
IMO, we should really enable, at least temporarily, first-poster moderation. I don't know what is the average subscription for people here, but I suspect it's ML, hence receiving spams before they possibly get deleted eventually from the GGroup archive. Hence no use. I'm in that case.

Aren't we now enough who answered to this thread or previously to enable this option? I don't expect an email would stay in the queue for more than a few hours with that amount of people? And this seems like a reasonable compromise for stopping spams here?

Thanks

-- Baptiste

2017-04-24 20:13 GMT+02:00 Michael Hunter <[hidden email]>:
I am willing to help as well. Timezone: GMT, BST.

On 19 April 2017 at 21:33, Arnaud Héritier <[hidden email]> wrote:
Let's go
CEST/CET
Do we know how many new subscribers we have per day/week to see how many we should be to moderate new members ?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Joseph P <[hidden email]> wrote:
I would also be willing. Timezone CEST/CET :)


Den mandag den 17. april 2017 kl. 17.53.45 UTC+2 skrev R Tyler Croy:

As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting through to
the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these have
resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those groups.

This was discussed during our last project meeting
(http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html),
and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and why.


If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google Groups,
if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I have
added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who can ban
authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, there's
nothing we can do.

Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one option, but
not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active
moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine of
banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the recent surge
and flagging of the group.


What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming one (April
26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins project.
A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a likely
destination if Google continues to flag our groups.



Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with
questions.


Cheers
- R. Tyler Croy

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