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Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
Hi all,
I have been trying to get in touch with the maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin (https://github.com/maximecharron), however:

a) His e-mail is not public, not even to the members of the JenkinsCI org
b) He doesn't respond to mentions in GitHub

Does anybody have a pointer or address to reach him?

Should we not be able to get in touch with him anymore, and the plugin has been quite inactive for the past 12 months, can I ask the permission to maintain the plugin?

Thank you in advance.

Luca.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
I may have found Maxime Charron e-mail from a Jira search 

@Maxime are you still maintaining the statistics-gatherer-plugin? Do you need any help?

Luca.

On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:15, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi all,
I have been trying to get in touch with the maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin (https://github.com/maximecharron), however:

a) His e-mail is not public, not even to the members of the JenkinsCI org
b) He doesn't respond to mentions in GitHub

Does anybody have a pointer or address to reach him?

Should we not be able to get in touch with him anymore, and the plugin has been quite inactive for the past 12 months, can I ask the permission to maintain the plugin?

Thank you in advance.

Luca.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Daniel Beck
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> On 9. Apr 2018, at 09:15, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> a) His e-mail is not public, not even to the members of the JenkinsCI org
> b) He doesn't respond to mentions in GitHub
>
> Does anybody have a pointer or address to reach him?

For future reference, the way I typically do this:

Check https://github.com/jenkins-infra/repository-permissions-updater for authorized uploader user names.
If that list is empty (~ no release in 3+ years), check uploader user names of previous releases in Artifactory.

Then log in to Jira, https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name= and append the user name(s) you found.

In this case, the email address is the same.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio


> On 9 Apr 2018, at 11:01, Daniel Beck <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> On 9. Apr 2018, at 09:15, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> a) His e-mail is not public, not even to the members of the JenkinsCI org
>> b) He doesn't respond to mentions in GitHub
>>
>> Does anybody have a pointer or address to reach him?
>
> For future reference, the way I typically do this:
>
> Check https://github.com/jenkins-infra/repository-permissions-updater for authorized uploader user names.
> If that list is empty (~ no release in 3+ years), check uploader user names of previous releases in Artifactory.
>
> Then log in to Jira, https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name= and append the user name(s) you found.

Yep, that the one I found as well :-)
Let's see his feedback on the mailing list.

I found some activity in Jira a few months ago, hopefully he is still following the project !

Luca.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
PIng ... any feedback from the current maintainer?

What is the wait time for getting this escalated and giving the possibility to fix bugs on the plugin?
Alternatively, should I just submit a brand-new plugin proposal? (which could cause confusion: people may not know which one is "active")

Thanks for the feedback.

Luca.

On 9 Apr 2018, at 11:07, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:



On 9 Apr 2018, at 11:01, Daniel Beck <[hidden email]> wrote:


On 9. Apr 2018, at 09:15, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:

a) His e-mail is not public, not even to the members of the JenkinsCI org
b) He doesn't respond to mentions in GitHub

Does anybody have a pointer or address to reach him?

For future reference, the way I typically do this:

Check https://github.com/jenkins-infra/repository-permissions-updater for authorized uploader user names.
If that list is empty (~ no release in 3+ years), check uploader user names of previous releases in Artifactory.

Then log in to Jira, https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name= and append the user name(s) you found.

Yep, that the one I found as well :-)
Let's see his feedback on the mailing list.

I found some activity in Jira a few months ago, hopefully he is still following the project !

Luca.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Daniel Beck

> On 10. Apr 2018, at 08:45, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> What is the wait time for getting this escalated and giving the possibility to fix bugs on the plugin?
> Alternatively, should I just submit a brand-new plugin proposal? (which could cause confusion: people may not know which one is "active")

Two weeks is the typical waiting time after reaching out to maintainers directly.

Up to you whether you create a new plugin, but like you point out, "plugin overload" has in the past been a source for user confusion and irritation.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Joseph P
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Usually the wait period is 2 weeks :) I would not recommend creating another plugin.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
2 weeks sound good to me, and yes, I always avoid forks :-)

Luca.

> On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:02, Joseph P <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Usually the wait period is 2 weeks :) I would not recommend creating another plugin.
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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
PIng ... any news from the current Maintainers?
Are we set for end of next week to make a decision on this?

Luca.

> On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:07, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> 2 weeks sound good to me, and yes, I always avoid forks :-)
>
> Luca.
>
>> On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:02, Joseph P <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Usually the wait period is 2 weeks :) I would not recommend creating another plugin.
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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
Hi all,
the PR has been waiting for 13 days now (see https://github.com/jenkinsci/statistics-gatherer-plugin/pull/4) and still no news from the current maintainer :-(

Can we process my request this week? As discussed, I would rather avoid forking the plugin and create confusion. However, we need to get this done and get the SCM Info fixed.

Thank you in advance.
Luca.

On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:37, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:

PIng ... any news from the current Maintainers?
Are we set for end of next week to make a decision on this?

Luca.

On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:07, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:

2 weeks sound good to me, and yes, I always avoid forks :-)

Luca.

On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:02, Joseph P <[hidden email]> wrote:

Usually the wait period is 2 weeks :) I would not recommend creating another plugin.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
I have create the PR https://github.com/jenkins-infra/repository-permissions-updater/pull/670 to request permissions to upload new versions of the artifacts.
Is there a form or a similar process to add permissions to the GitHub repository?

It has been 14 days (2 weeks) that I tried to get in touch with the maintainer and got no answers from any e-mails, mentions or anything else :-(

Even the 2nd top contributor is not sure if the maintainer is looking at it or not.

Thank you for your help.

Luca.

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 11:41:19 AM UTC+1, lucamilanesio wrote:
Hi all,
the PR has been waiting for 13 days now (see <a href="https://github.com/jenkinsci/statistics-gatherer-plugin/pull/4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fjenkinsci%2Fstatistics-gatherer-plugin%2Fpull%2F4\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFm-zjIPSCVIc4xVdnXGPLBWXIdgQ&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fjenkinsci%2Fstatistics-gatherer-plugin%2Fpull%2F4\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFm-zjIPSCVIc4xVdnXGPLBWXIdgQ&#39;;return true;">https://github.com/jenkinsci/statistics-gatherer-plugin/pull/4) and still no news from the current maintainer :-(

Can we process my request this week? As discussed, I would rather avoid forking the plugin and create confusion. However, we need to get this done and get the SCM Info fixed.

Thank you in advance.
Luca.

On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:37, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:

PIng ... any news from the current Maintainers?
Are we set for end of next week to make a decision on this?

Luca.

On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:07, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:

2 weeks sound good to me, and yes, I always avoid forks :-)

Luca.

On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:02, Joseph P <[hidden email]> wrote:

Usually the wait period is 2 weeks :) I would not recommend creating another plugin.

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
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Any news on this request?

I would wait a couple of days more and if there is no movement, I'll have no choice but forking it :-(
I agree with Daniel, forking would create confusion.
However, having a plugin that extract statistics and is up-to-date with Jenkins 2.0 and Pipelines is definitely needed.

Let me know if you guys have other options :-)

As proposal for the forked plugin name:
"Events Collector"

Luca.


> On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:00, Daniel Beck <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> On 10. Apr 2018, at 08:45, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> What is the wait time for getting this escalated and giving the possibility to fix bugs on the plugin?
>> Alternatively, should I just submit a brand-new plugin proposal? (which could cause confusion: people may not know which one is "active")
>
> Two weeks is the typical waiting time after reaching out to maintainers directly.
>
> Up to you whether you create a new plugin, but like you point out, "plugin overload" has in the past been a source for user confusion and irritation.
>

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
Ping @Admins of the JenkinsCI org :-)

> On 18 Apr 2018, at 10:05, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Any news on this request?
>
> I would wait a couple of days more and if there is no movement, I'll have no choice but forking it :-(
> I agree with Daniel, forking would create confusion.
> However, having a plugin that extract statistics and is up-to-date with Jenkins 2.0 and Pipelines is definitely needed.
>
> Let me know if you guys have other options :-)
>
> As proposal for the forked plugin name:
> "Events Collector"

Thinking aloud, a *brand new* fork could make a lot of sense, because the collection of the events should be de-coupled from the implementation of its transports.
The current structure of this plugin, instead, has the transport hardcoded in it, which isn't good at all.

I added the support for LOGBack which is good, because allows to de-couple the appenders' transport by just configuring it in the logback.xml.

The *brand new* fork could then called:
"LOGBack Events Collector"

The "out-of-the-box" benefits would be huge on the varieties of transports available for LOGBack:
- storage to a DB
- ElasticSearch
- NATS
- Kafka
- pure Socket
- ...

What do you think?
Should I just start over?

Luca.

>
> Luca.
>
>
>> On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:00, Daniel Beck <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 10. Apr 2018, at 08:45, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the wait time for getting this escalated and giving the possibility to fix bugs on the plugin?
>>> Alternatively, should I just submit a brand-new plugin proposal? (which could cause confusion: people may not know which one is "active")
>>
>> Two weeks is the typical waiting time after reaching out to maintainers directly.
>>
>> Up to you whether you create a new plugin, but like you point out, "plugin overload" has in the past been a source for user confusion and irritation.
>>
>

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
Hi Daniel, Oleg,
am I following the right process to get access to the statistics-gatherer plugin?
It is over two weeks that PRs for important bug-fixes are stuck.

I am really close to fork it, which could create confusion in people discovering it through the Plugin Manager in Jenkins.

Thanks for your feedback.

Luca.

> On 18 Apr 2018, at 22:56, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Ping @Admins of the JenkinsCI org :-)
>
>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 10:05, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Any news on this request?
>>
>> I would wait a couple of days more and if there is no movement, I'll have no choice but forking it :-(
>> I agree with Daniel, forking would create confusion.
>> However, having a plugin that extract statistics and is up-to-date with Jenkins 2.0 and Pipelines is definitely needed.
>>
>> Let me know if you guys have other options :-)
>>
>> As proposal for the forked plugin name:
>> "Events Collector"
>
> Thinking aloud, a *brand new* fork could make a lot of sense, because the collection of the events should be de-coupled from the implementation of its transports.
> The current structure of this plugin, instead, has the transport hardcoded in it, which isn't good at all.
>
> I added the support for LOGBack which is good, because allows to de-couple the appenders' transport by just configuring it in the logback.xml.
>
> The *brand new* fork could then called:
> "LOGBack Events Collector"
>
> The "out-of-the-box" benefits would be huge on the varieties of transports available for LOGBack:
> - storage to a DB
> - ElasticSearch
> - NATS
> - Kafka
> - pure Socket
> - ...
>
> What do you think?
> Should I just start over?
>
> Luca.
>
>>
>> Luca.
>>
>>
>>> On 10 Apr 2018, at 08:00, Daniel Beck <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10. Apr 2018, at 08:45, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is the wait time for getting this escalated and giving the possibility to fix bugs on the plugin?
>>>> Alternatively, should I just submit a brand-new plugin proposal? (which could cause confusion: people may not know which one is "active")
>>>
>>> Two weeks is the typical waiting time after reaching out to maintainers directly.
>>>
>>> Up to you whether you create a new plugin, but like you point out, "plugin overload" has in the past been a source for user confusion and irritation.
>>>
>>
>

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Daniel Beck

> On 19. Apr 2018, at 09:55, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> am I following the right process to get access to the statistics-gatherer plugin?
> It is over two weeks that PRs for important bug-fixes are stuck.
>
> I am really close to fork it, which could create confusion in people discovering it through the Plugin Manager in Jenkins.

Hi Luca,

You're on the right track here. We try to give maintainers adequate time to respond, taking into account potential vacations etc., before giving someone else access, to minimize the potential for conflict down the road.

Daniel

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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Luca Milanesio
Sounds good, thanks for the feedback.

Luca

> On 19 Apr 2018, at 11:53, Daniel Beck <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> On 19. Apr 2018, at 09:55, Luca Milanesio <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> am I following the right process to get access to the statistics-gatherer plugin?
>> It is over two weeks that PRs for important bug-fixes are stuck.
>>
>> I am really close to fork it, which could create confusion in people discovering it through the Plugin Manager in Jenkins.
>
> Hi Luca,
>
> You're on the right track here. We try to give maintainers adequate time to respond, taking into account potential vacations etc., before giving someone else access, to minimize the potential for conflict down the road.
>
> Daniel
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Re: Request to become maintainer of the statistics-gatherer-plugin

Oleg Nenashev
+1. If there is no response, let's transfer ownership once the response timeout expires

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 12:54:04 PM UTC+2, lucamilanesio wrote:
Sounds good, thanks for the feedback.

Luca

> On 19 Apr 2018, at 11:53, Daniel Beck <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="gAQWMZO4AAAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">m...@...> wrote:
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>> On 19. Apr 2018, at 09:55, Luca Milanesio <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="gAQWMZO4AAAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">luca.mi...@...> wrote:
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>> am I following the right process to get access to the statistics-gatherer plugin?
>> It is over two weeks that PRs for important bug-fixes are stuck.
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>> I am really close to fork it, which could create confusion in people discovering it through the Plugin Manager in Jenkins.
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> Hi Luca,
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> You're on the right track here. We try to give maintainers adequate time to respond, taking into account potential vacations etc., before giving someone else access, to minimize the potential for conflict down the road.
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> Daniel
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