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Arnaud Héritier
Hi guys,

  Couldn't it be more standard to have colors green/orange/red for the build status instead of blue/yellow/red ?
  I find the yellow not enough visible.
  Am I the only one ?
  Is it useful to open an issue for it ?

Arnaud
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Re: status bullet color

joel1di1
+1

On 8/24/07, Arnaud HERITIER <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Hi guys,
>
>   Couldn't it be more standard to have colors green/orange/red for the build
> status instead of blue/yellow/red ?
>   I find the yellow not enough visible.
>   Am I the only one ?
>   Is it useful to open an issue for it ?
>
> Arnaud
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Re: status bullet color

Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Benoît Lafontaine:

> +1
>
> On 8/24/07, Arnaud HERITIER <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> >   Couldn't it be more standard to have colors green/orange/red for the build
> > status instead of blue/yellow/red ?
> >   I find the yellow not enough visible.
> >   Am I the only one ?
> >   Is it useful to open an issue for it ?

Please have a look at the mailing-list archives so that Kohsuke
does not need to repeat the same thing over and over ;-)
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Re: status bullet color

Arnaud Héritier
I just found
https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=369 

And Kohsuke says that nobsy asked on the ml ;-)

I understand about the color palette. I already discussed about that with my company designer and even  if he had the same arguments at the beginning, he finally admitted that it was possible to have some exceptions for those sort of standards.

Arnaud


Jean-Baptiste Quenot-4 wrote
* Benoît Lafontaine:
> +1
>
> On 8/24/07, Arnaud HERITIER <aheritier@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> >   Couldn't it be more standard to have colors green/orange/red for the build
> > status instead of blue/yellow/red ?
> >   I find the yellow not enough visible.
> >   Am I the only one ?
> >   Is it useful to open an issue for it ?

Please have a look at the mailing-list archives so that Kohsuke
does not need to repeat the same thing over and over ;-)
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aka  John Banana   Qwerty
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Re: status bullet color

Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Arnaud HERITIER:
>
> I just found
> https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=369 
>
> And Kohsuke says that nobsy asked on the ml ;-)

Probably because Hudson has gained a lot of interest in a short
period of 4 months :-)
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RE: Re: status bullet color

Nord, James-2
-20

Please remember that a fair %age (between 7 and 10) of the male
population is red-green colour blind.

Traffic lights work as light position can be inferred by positions but a
gred/green ball on a UI can not.

It is this reason that apps use squares/triangles and circles as well as
color to convey status at a glance.

So please do not change just the colour without the shape of the balls!

My 2p

/James

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> > I just found
> > https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=369
> >
> > And Kohsuke says that nobsy asked on the ml ;-)
>
> Probably because Hudson has gained a lot of interest in a
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Gregory Kick-2
A valid point and some good trivia too.  :-)  And IIRC, the green in a
lot of traffic lights have a certain amount of blue tint in them to
solve that problem (just like hudson!).

On 8/24/07, Nord, James <[hidden email]> wrote:

> -20
>
> Please remember that a fair %age (between 7 and 10) of the male
> population is red-green colour blind.
>
> Traffic lights work as light position can be inferred by positions but a
> gred/green ball on a UI can not.
>
> It is this reason that apps use squares/triangles and circles as well as
> color to convey status at a glance.
>
> So please do not change just the colour without the shape of the balls!
>
> My 2p
>
> /James
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jean-Baptiste Quenot [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: 24 August 2007 14:51
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: status bullet color
> >
> > * Arnaud HERITIER:
> > >
> > > I just found
> > > https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=369
> > >
> > > And Kohsuke says that nobsy asked on the ml ;-)
> >
> > Probably because Hudson has gained a lot of interest in a
> > short period of 4 months :-)
> > --
> >      Jean-Baptiste Quenot
> > aka  John Banana   Qwerty
> > http://caraldi.com/jbq/
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Re: status bullet color

Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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In reply to this post by Arnaud Héritier
Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> I just found
> https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=369 
>
> And Kohsuke says that nobsy asked on the ml ;-)

There's also some discussion on this in the issue #572, which is marked
as a duplicate of this issue.

> I understand about the color palette. I already discussed about that with my
> company designer and even  if he had the same arguments at the beginning, he
> finally admitted that it was possible to have some exceptions for those sort
> of standards.

I can interpret this in two ways:

1. your designer also initially felt that the blue is a part of the
palette and thus harder to change (=same argument as I do), but you
eventually convinced him that using green ball, even outside the palette
(=exception to the standard), is a better idea.

2. your designer also initially felt that the ball should be green (=
same argument as you do), but he eventually felt that using blue ball,
even if it's not the common convention, is a better idea.

Which one was it? I've always wanted to hear from a real designer, so if
he could share his thoughts on this issue, that would be great.


I think there's a mounting feedback on this that we should change it to
green...

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Re: status bullet color

rja84
Success=green is definitely more typical for summary pages like this...

Make the green triangle now in the "Schedule a build" button a blue triangle, that would look nice... :-)


On 8/24/07, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[hidden email]> wrote:
Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> I just found
> https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=369
>
> And Kohsuke says that nobsy asked on the ml ;-)

There's also some discussion on this in the issue #572, which is marked
as a duplicate of this issue.

> I understand about the color palette. I already discussed about that with my
> company designer and even  if he had the same arguments at the beginning, he
> finally admitted that it was possible to have some exceptions for those sort
> of standards.

I can interpret this in two ways:

1. your designer also initially felt that the blue is a part of the
palette and thus harder to change (=same argument as I do), but you
eventually convinced him that using green ball, even outside the palette
(=exception to the standard), is a better idea.

2. your designer also initially felt that the ball should be green (=
same argument as you do), but he eventually felt that using blue ball,
even if it's not the common convention, is a better idea.

Which one was it? I've always wanted to hear from a real designer, so if
he could share his thoughts on this issue, that would be great.


I think there's a mounting feedback on this that we should change it to
green...

--
Kohsuke Kawaguchi
Sun Microsystems                   [hidden email]